All Things Considered, Which is Superior, Team 4 or Team N?

Tommy Kono June 1, 2012

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1名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:19:02.73：9swAHdaH0
From ordinary fans perspective, team 4 is superior??

3名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:23:21.35：vRd8iGGZ0
Team N started earlier, but more cute girls in team 4.

5名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:24:25.68：aok9gY/A0
As for media exposure, team 4 goes far ahead of team N (in Kantoh region)
So, team 4 is of course widely recognized among general public!
But I love team N’s stage far more than team 4’s.
All things considered? I don’t know much about both.

6名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:25:02.51：9swAHdaH0
So in Kantoh, team 4 wins, and in Kansai, nobody knows team 4, right?

7名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:25:57.45：m3aCUsdJO

If these 2 teams are combined, then it will be the supreme team of AKB48, which can dance, sing and has stunning visual impact!!

8名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:25:59.88：2H/EZanm0
When it comes to stage performance, it’s no comparison. Team N is professional, while team 4 is school play.
If you are talking about Oppai, then team N wins on this, too.

9名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:26:09.20：oZe+Sn5+0
Even if you ask people at AKB theater in Akihabara, most people would answer team N is far better lol

12名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:28:51.40：SHIiHJELi
I finally could figure out thread starter’s intention. Both team have 5 members in the early result, and that’s why we compare them?

13名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:29:37.84：sDnlmueCO

Team 4 vs team N is like…

Mice vs Tiger.

The order goes like this, “S→N→K→K2→A→M→B→E”

18名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:33:32.67：vA4EpmYV0
>>13
Where are team 4 and H?
Out of ranking?

23名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:40:08.10：sDnlmueCO
>>18 I’ve never seen team H’s stage. Team 4 is … between B and E.

27名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:58:19.19：aok9gY/A0
>>23
Come on, I can somehow understand your ranking. It makes sense.

But… team 4 is above team E..? No way!!

14名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:29:44.82：E1tGGxkB0

Why you can compare 4 and N in the first place? Almost everyone hasn’t yet seen team 4’s Stage!! While team N is one of the best stage act among all AKB48 groups!!

15名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:30:35.41：9swAHdaH0
>>14
But how are they doing in the media?

19名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:35:44.19：CZ6/ueGBO

There is no Hetale in team 4, but 超negative thinking person (<- Maria Abe)

20名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:37:52.96：4mMmkTDv0
I think team N is better.

21名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:39:05.33：9swAHdaH0
Individual member wise, team N is superior as 2 members from the team in the early result are highly expected to make their way to Senbatsu.

Team wise, team 4 is better.

22名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:39:49.04：5t2qIDfHO
If you area talking about “IDOL”, then it’s no brainer, team 4 owns this face-off!!

24名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:45:24.37：gH5FQBzAi

But if you look at 3-top of both teams, I can’t even think of who come top 3 in team 4, while it’s easy to name who are 3-top of team N….

But if we consider all factors, which team is superior??

26名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 15:50:36.00：9K7xHRs/i
Looks wise, because it has Paruru, team 4 wins by a mile.
Performance wise, because of Shimada, Yamauchi and Takeuchi, team 4 can get a slim triumph.

32名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 18:59:00.65：htH6YSZuO
Sorry to say this, but currently team N wins over team 4 in ever aspect.
If you exclude Yamamoto and Yamada from team N, and include Yokoyama to team 4, then team 4 has a little chance to go ahead of team N….

But looks wise, it will be a good match!!

33名前：まぐろ投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 20:21:03.47：q+hGJiOqi
I want N and 4 members to be centers of next Senbatsu.

34名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 20:28:04.75：faSBQhYI0
Is this situation good that 9gen members are far behind team N members who are junior to them??

35名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 20:32:27.20：ugNb977z0
It’s all about their mentality.

Original members of SKE, NMB and HKT has mettle as there’re no one who lead their respective teams if they don’t.

By the way, I still know nothing about JKT48….

38名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 20:36:17.64：kEDVpLX30
Because members of team 4 and N are really in good terms, I hope next generation of AKB48 will consist of members from these 2 teams.

41名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 20:56:54.54：U9/SrTXg0

It’s hurting that there’s a huge gap between the quality of their leaders….
Captain of team 4 is Mina Ohba, and Shimada has a big presence, too, right?

Paruru is Ace but she is not a kind of person who lead the team…..
She seems to be not interested in competition and never fuels rivalry….

Team N has Yamamoto, who is a good role model as well as a good teacher of dancing.
Yamamoto is standing out in singing and talking, but Watanabe never gives an inch to her.
This team is the definition of friendly competition!!

Maybe it sounds like I have a prejudice on team 4, as I’m very hard on them, but….
These catchphrases are really suitable for team 4…. “waiting for their chance will come (passively)“ “Friends club” “Strolling in the dark (without knowing where they are heading for)“.
As many people said, they should swap some members with one from branch offices.

But what I’m expecting is… how about exchange leaders of team 4 and N for a half year? lol

42名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 20:58:57.48：TmX2SOxS0
I compared members in AIUEO order.
Ogasawara ＞ Abe
Kadowaki ＜ Ichikawa
Kishino ＝Iriyama
Kinoshita ＞ Iwata (<-?)
Kotani ＜ Ohba
Kondoh ＞ Katoh
Shinohara ＜ Kawaei
Joenishi ＜ Paruru
Shirama ＜ Shimada
Fukumoto ＞ Takahashi
Matsuda ＜ Takeuchi
Yamaguchi ＞ Tano
Yamada ＞ Nakamata
Yamamoto ＞＞＞＞＞ Nakamura
Yoshida ＜ Nagao
Watanabe ＞ Yamauchi

Conclusion: team N wins.

64名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 23:00:59.93：5/3G068w0
>>42

“Yamamoto ＞＞＞＞＞ Nakamura “
I laughed so hard…. lol

45名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 21:03:52.45：9ilEVp+t0
If we shuffle members of both teams, we may have better new 2 teams??

53名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 21:39:51.07：U9/SrTXg0
It’s too early to make this comparison.
Sayanee and Milky has been regular Senbatsu members since Evryday Cachuhca,
While Team 4 members made their first appearance in Senbtasu in Manatsu no SG!.
From Sayanee and Milky’s perspective, they definitely don’t see Paruru or Suzuran as their rivals.

54名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 21:41:05.27：n3bzguDzi
It’s 100% impossible that team N, the team which takes on all the burden to lead NMB48, lose to team 4….

I know they’ve been promoting Paruru since the end of last year,
but she willl be overtaken by Milky in a flash.
Their talents, their guts, their aura are that different. There is no comparison between Milky and Paruru.
So…. we gotta wait for a while and expect the growth of Juri and Tano-chan.

55名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 21:43:11.95：kEDVpLX30
Sayanee and Paruru looks doing very friendly on G+….

57名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 21:55:54.45：8230FivS0
It’s not only these two, but many of team N and 4 members interact each other a lot.
Melonpan is also very attached to Sayanee. lol

58名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 21:57:16.82：kEDVpLX30
Nana and Nakamata~~~

60名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 22:02:59.52：doxTbmqz0

NMB48 vs AKB after 9gen will be like this

Yamamoto ＜ Yokoyama
Watanabe ＞ Paruru
Ogasawara ＜ Tomu Mutoh
Yamada ＞ Yamauchi
Fukumoto ＜ Nagao

67名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/06/01(金) 00:02:20.69：ZtkVRPDj0
>>60
LOLw

Obviously you know nothing about team N….

There is no single aspect where Sayaka Yamamoto lose to Yui Yokoyama except the amount of promotional support they’ve gotten.

61名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 22:49:11.10：iUNBuD+B0
Team 4 and N??? Personally I think both are good teams…..but….. because Yamamoto has a huge potential, I choose team N as a winner.
If team 4 has Yokoyama, then team 4 will win a by a neck…

Paruru’s performance is something reminiscent of Acchan and it looks sometimes so bright, but her talking ability is still Ponkotsu….
If she doesn’t speak, then it will be perfect but of course she has to learn on a real stage..
When I went to the team $’s stage, Nakamatta~ was also shining!

But as there’re only 5-6 members who can shine on a stage, I can’t say this team can stack up to team N.

62名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 22:56:59.94：/2qNfjOb0
It’s too rude to compare team N with 4

It’s just too rude for team N.
After went to several of their stages, I’ve realized team N’s performance is better than any other teams.

66名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/05/31(木) 23:57:46.01：uHY5atve0
Sayanee and Paruru are both awesome!!!

68名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/06/01(金) 00:06:22.53：ED+YtokE0
Though I’m HQ Ota, I can’T think of any reason to say team 4 is superior to team N…..
I simply respect Yamamoto, Watanabe and Yamada….
Thanks to these 3 top members, I think team N is more widely known to public than team 4.
There’s no standing out figure in team 4… it’s just like…. friends club….

74名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/06/01(金) 01:28:14.70：fJbHJ6bdO
I think as a team, team 4 lacks the balance… Individual member wise, there’re some prospects in the team though.
Current situation of Shimada reminds me of Okaro, who doesn’t have unique and deep members in the same generation. I kinda feel sorry for both…
Shimada has no choice but goes ahead… but that all the more makes her looks conceited and noisy….. it’s a bad spiral for her….

79名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/06/01(金) 02:51:08.37：JgZP5EOIP
Team 4
22th Shimazaki　　AKB48 4　 2,340票
47th Yamauchi　　AKB48 4　 988票
53th Nagao　 AKB48 4　 818票
56th Ohba　　AKB48 4　 786票
59th Ichikara　　AKB48 4　 702票

NMB48
18th Yamamoto 3,218票
19th Watanabe 2,976票
31th Ogasawara 1,746票
42th Yamada 1,136票
54th Fukumoto 816票

80名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/06/01(金) 02:57:19.08：cz+D//d50I think it’s team 4.

They are dubbed “Golden generation”….lol

82名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/06/01(金) 03:06:05.18：wp4QwMJB0
I know team 4 has been featured in TV show. But all programs they are featured in are “Maniac” shows which are basically only watched by hardcore Ota.

Compared to this closed state of team 4, team N has experienced tons of “mainstream” TV shows thanks to the support from Yoshimoto agency.
Unlike team 4, which just accompanies to top members of AKB48 in their rare appearance of mainstream TV shows, team N always make TV appearance as representative of NMB48.

How come it’s possible to compare 4 with N? There’s a huge gap between them in terms of experience they piled up.

93名前：名無しさん＠実況は禁止です投稿日：2012/06/01(金) 04:04:03.06：H3Lpy2o40
Certainly team 4 and N will be a good match!
Because characters of both teams are totally different, it’s difficult to conclude which is a winner,
But that all the more stirs up their rivalry!!